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Here's Why Bill Murray Turned Down Ghostbusters III, Dan Aykroyd

Posted: 02/29/2012 12:55 pm

In a recent interview with The Telegraph, Dan Aykroyd confirmed that Bill Murray will not be a part of a movie that's never going to happen, Ghostbusters III. Thank God. Anyone who's actually taken a peek at what Aykroyd had in mind for a third movie knows it isn't pretty. But that's not really the point. The point is that Bill Murray, who knows full well that his involvement would most likely ensure that Ghostbusters 3 would become a reality, passed. Why wouldn't Murray want this to happen? Even just to help out his old pal Aykroyd? The answer is: "Because Bill Murray isn't stupid."

Yes, let's, for a few minutes, get into the mind of Bill Murray. Murray, today, enjoys his life as an enigma - gallivanting around the world, while, professionally, only accepting the roles that he happens to find interesting. Yes, this sounds nice. The thing is, Murray doesn't get near enough credit for the work he put into making sure this professional lifestyle is possible (hold that thought).

I never once believed Bill Murray when he said he hadn't read the script for Ghostbusters 3. I would bet good money that he has not only read that script but also is well aware that the script is not very good. He's also well aware where his career was at the last time he appeared in a bad Ghostbusters sequel.

Bill Murray likes doing "serious movies." This was evident as far back as 1984, when Murray put his heart and soul into a pet project called The Razor's Edge -- a movie that explains his psyche better than any other. The problem was, Murray wasn't in a position at the time to get a "serious" film made. So he struck a deal with the studio: He'd star in a movie called Ghostbusters in exchange for The Razors Edge being released. Ghostbusters went on to gross $238 million; The Razors Edge (filmed before Ghostbusters, but released four months later) tanked, grossing only $6.5 million. Murray was so crushed by the failure of The Razor's Edge that he moved to Paris and didn't star in another film -- save for a cameo in Little Shop of Horrors -- for another four years. Today, Murray doesn't have to make trades to get a movie produced.

When Murray did return, his first two films were the better-than-it-needed-to-be Scrooged and the ill-fated Ghostbusters II. Funny thing about Ghostbusters II, Murray didn't want to do that movie either. As he told The New York Times in 1988, "Ghostbusters was kind of radioactive, it was so out-of-scale. You sort of had to lay low for a while. The reason most people do sequels is greed. But if you do it for business reasons, you should be put to death.'' In the same article, Harold Ramis said this when asked if there would be a Ghostbusters III: "I doubt it very much. It's so hard to get everybody together. And we're so much older. There's a lot more hair dye being used this time. When it's face-lift time, we'll have to quit." (I should point out that this quote is 23 years old.) Ghostbusters II grossed less than half of what its predecessor made. Siskel and Ebert called it one of the worst films of 1989.

Over the next eight years, Murray had sporadic success. His co-directorial debut (he shared the credit with Howard Franklin), Quick Change, flopped at the box office. Sure, this era produced gems like Groundhog Day, but, when you factor in films like Larger Than Life (along with an elephant) and The Man Who Knew Too Little, it's evident that Murray was dangerously close to emulating the downward spiraling career of his longtime frenemy Chevy Chase.

Looking back, it's really not too big of a surprise that Murray agreed to take a role in Wes Anderson's Rushmore -- even taking a pay cut to do so. It's this type of movie that Murray has always been interested in doing. Actually, it's more of a surprise that Anderson thought he could still squeeze indie credibility out of a guy who'd just starred in a movie with an elephant. And I think Murray knows this. Regardless, Rushmore, coupled with 2003's Lost in Translation (a movie that would garner Murray an Oscar nomination), effectively changed his career forever. Murray, if he played his cards right, would never again have to star in silly, lightweight comedies or co-star with animals. At this point, why would Murray ever take a role that could jeopardize this?

To wit: Let's look at another SNL alumnus, Eddie Murphy. Murphy, like Murray, was heralded for a role -- 2006's Dreamgirls -- and picked up an Oscar nomination of his own for his troubles. Murphy's problem post-Dreamgirls was that (A) either he grossly miscalculated, being arrogant enough to think he could continue to make schlock like Norbit and still be offered roles that could garner critical acclaim; or (B) he just didn't give a shit. Either is possible. (As an aside, looking back, it's hard to believe Murphy's latest comeback was pegged to something as inconsequential as Tower Heist. This is how desperate things have become for Murphy.) Murray, on the other hand, knows what one high-profile clunker can do to a career -- he's been there -- and very much does give a shit.

Everything Murray has achieved to this point could be destroyed by Ghostbusters III. Even though Aykroyd is the driving force behind the film, Murray would be the focus of attention. In other words: Murray would take the hit and, yes, look like a sellout. But what about Garfield?, I know you're thinking right now. Yes, Garfield was a sellout. But at least Murray was smart enough to keep his face out of those movies. (Plus, one line in Zombieland has completely wiped away any ill will that those movies caused.) Ghostbusters III would be different: Peter Venkman is the main character in the previous two Ghostbusters, and there would be no hiding behind an animated cat this time.

Aykroyd's passive-aggressive jabs at Murray in the press over the last few years have most likely not helped this situation. As if corresponding with Murray through the media is going to change Murray's mind. This time, Aykroyd says of Murray, "He golfs in these tournaments where they pay him to turn up and have a laugh. He's into this life and living it." Right. Murray hasn't been filming Hyde Park on the Hudson or Wes Anderson's Moonrise Kingdom. Nope, he's just been playing golf and ignoring your scripts, Dan Aykroyd. That's it. And the thing is, I feel fairly confident assuming that if Aykroyd had actually done something interesting with the new script, Murray would be on board. But he's not going to risk "this life," as Aykroyd puts it, to do a bad Ghostbusters movie. Murray has done that before. And Murray isn't about to star alongside an elephant again.

Mike Ryan is the senior writer for Moviefone. He has written for Wired Magazine, VanityFair.com and GQ.com. He likes Star Wars a lot. You can contact Mike Ryan directly on Twitter

 
In a recent interview with The Telegraph, Dan Aykroyd confirmed that Bill Murray will not be a part of a movie that's never going to happen, Ghostbusters III. Thank God. Anyone who's actually taken ...
In a recent interview with The Telegraph, Dan Aykroyd confirmed that Bill Murray will not be a part of a movie that's never going to happen, Ghostbusters III. Thank God. Anyone who's actually taken ...
 
 
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08:04 PM on 03/27/2012
Now, that is all fine and good.
BUT
and it is a BIIIG BUT
Listen up anyone making Ghostbusters 3....please.
Our lives are in need of something to smile about again, something to make us remember the FUN of going to the movies, instead of how much we PAYED...
remember when we didn't CARE what it cost, the movie was JUST SO GREAT, we HAD TO SEE IT AGAIN AND AGAIN(and sometimes)AGAIN!
Ghostbusters costumes took over the sci-fi cons(some were GREAT), you tried a million times to get through to the 1-800-Ghostbusters number just to hear it ONCE to say YOU HEARD IT!
It doesn't HAVE to be a RE-DO with younger actors,IT ONLY HAS TO HAVE GOOD WRITING TO MAKE US CARE, AND TO ROOT FOR OUR OLD FRIENDS THE GHOSTBUSTERS!!!!!
I HATE the movies that try and remake things I LOVED!
The '80's WERE NOT BAD, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE REDONE, THEY LIVE ON IN ALL THE GLORY THAT MADE IT FUN!!!
And, dammit, I SURVIVED 44 BRAIN SURGERIES, A COMA, AND TONS MORE NOT VERY FUN THINGS BY HOPING THAT THE FUTURE WAS GOING TO BE BETTER!
I SURVIVED!
NOW STOP DESTROYING THINGS I LOVED!
12:54 AM on 03/27/2012
No mention of Kingpin? Arguably his best comedic role.
05:51 PM on 03/25/2012
Mike Ryan appears to know of what he speaks. I'll be keeping my eye on him.
01:49 AM on 03/25/2012
Firstly, this is an extremely well-written and on-point article. Here's where you miss the boat. Ghostbusters III is the sequel to end all sequels. There are less than ten sequels that have ever been harolded to its extent in pop culture history. I absolutely agree with you that Murray fears another bomb but I also agree with you completely that he is no fool. Yes, he's read the script. Yes, he knows it's not the best thing that he's ever read. But what he has missed, and I think you have as well, is the sheer blockbuster power of what Ghostbusters III would be to the movie-going public, the investors, the studio, and Murray's career. Dan is a great writer and a very nice guy to boot. (I met him at a producer's soire at LA's House of Blues a couple weeks ago.) I think he needs to take a meeting with Apatow, Whedon, and McG and ask for feedback like a writer's meeting at 30 Rock. There they can work out the kinks and get it back into Murray's hands with renewed vigor. Murray will listen if they script is right. He seems to be a bit more curmudgety than necessary on this one.
05:52 PM on 03/25/2012
You had me until McG.
08:10 AM on 03/24/2012
No mention of the Ghostbuster's video game in this article, which had all of the movie's orginal cast, including Bill Murray, doing the voices in 2009. So it's not like he's beyond doing a sequel as a voice actor, maybe he's just concerned that he'd look too old in the orginal live action part (which he is sadly and he states as much "...we're so much older. There's a lot more hair dye being used this time. When it's face-lift time, we'll have to quit.") rather than the script being career-shatteringly bad. Although I'm not thilled about a third movie, maybe he'd get behind another video game or a CGI effort? That's my hypothesis anyway.
And for the record, I don't think Ghostbusters II was an awful film, I liked it. It just wasn't perfect like the first film, and to say it is the worst film ever made is a great overreaction. Especially since this man is responsible for Garfield 2, let's not forget that.
10:44 PM on 03/26/2012
By not mentioning the 2009 Ghostbusters videogame this article can avoid the fact that it was written by Dan Akroyd and Harold Ramis and critically acclaimed for not just the game in general but for its script too which is officially canon and they (Akroyd & Ramis) have said that the game can be regarded as Ghostbusters 3 if a Ghostbusters 3 movie never gets made. Because if the article didn't ignore those facts then Mike Ryan would have a harder time writing the usual cynical article that bashes decent movies like Ghostbusters 2, The Man Who Knew Too Little and Larger That Life because they're not "indies" made by "trendy" very well connected "indie" directors. (Who is Sofia Coppola's father again, it's slipped my mind? And, oh look, there's her cousin Jason Schwartzman in another Wes Anderson movie. With Bill Murray no less!) As well as bashing Dan Akroyd for some reason. Maybe Mike Ryan doesn't like actors who voice CGI versions of classic cartoon characters in live-action movie remakes? Hey, wait a second...
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12:03 AM on 03/24/2012
Dan Akyroyd....Not much of a career in the movie biz...After Belushi died, seems it was over for him too...except the eating.
09:41 AM on 03/27/2012
Check IMBD.
Akroyd has many films to his credit. on both sides of the camera.
Research cures ignorance.
Try it.
11:16 AM on 03/22/2012
He doesn't want to make the movie. Who cares what his motivations are? He doesn't believe it will do well. He already made a huge mistake by agreeing to do Garfield and people aren't letting him live that one down, as is obvious by all the people here who keep bringing it up. The man said no. Pure and simple.
11:26 PM on 03/30/2012
He owes it to the fans who helped GB I bring in $238 mil in the first place and furnished the lifestyle he now lives in. Come to think of it, Jim Steinman and Meat Loaf owe us a real Bat Out Of Hell III too... and don't get me started on a final Phantasm movie.....
08:21 PM on 03/19/2012
I truly think Dan Akyroyd doesn't need the $ either. Sure, he's been in lots of garbage. He owns or did own House Of Blues, Crystal Head Vodka, & as writer of Ghostbusters & Blues Brothers, rakes in $$$ in royalties. He also was nominated for an Oscar in "Driving Miss Daisy" + good supporting roles in "Chaplin", "Gross Pointe Blank" & Woody Allen's "Curse Of The Jade Scorpion". I truly think that like many of his generation, they feel an affinity for the stuff they knocked out of the park; Lucas revisiting Star Wars, Spielberg/Lucas reviving Indiana Jones, etc. But, like most people, I hope they don't make a 3rd Ghostbusters w/o Murray.
02:02 PM on 03/14/2012
well tbh im an actor and i dont think a script is what makes a bad movie and to say dan akroyd has lost his talent well your dead wrong. blue brothers 2000 did what it had to do it gave us a laugh and a great playback of amazing songs. bill murray in my oppinion doesnt know what friendship is because without akroyd giving him the role in the first ghostbuster what would he of done . he didnt mind doing two of the films and taking his cut so when people state he doesnt like performing in bad movies . well ive seen a hell of alot of movies where hes been rubbish but i dont think its the script its the actor .
08:17 PM on 03/19/2012
Trust me. A bad script ALWAYS makes a bad movie. A good script sometimes makes a good movie but don't count on it.. Ghostbusters II shouldn't have happened and save us from Ghostbusters III. The original Ghostbusters joins a rich list of films that shoiuld never have had sequels. The Matrix anyone?
10:49 PM on 03/26/2012
Personally really enjoyed GBII. I think the only thing wrong with the film was that people expected more that it could possibly deliver and it could never match the hype.

Still a great film.
04:38 AM on 03/20/2012
hold on... what? you can't have a good movie if you have a bad script. to think otherwise is crazy
07:38 PM on 03/08/2012
As much as I would personally like to see a third Ghostbusters (hopefully a better version than part 2) the odds of it being a good movie are slim to none and Mr. Murry is correct in his choice.
09:29 AM on 03/07/2012
Ok so Bill Murray stars in Passion Play and yet he won't be in Ghostbusters 3???
09:27 AM on 03/07/2012
So Bill Murray agrees to be in the abortion of a film that was "Passion Play" yet he won't be a friend and be in Ghostbusters 3 which would make him and his buddies a lot of money plus with Murray's involvement it would be kinda funny wouldn't it?
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RebeccaSioux
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04:38 AM on 03/06/2012
Oh come on. He should just do it. I think it would be a blockbuster. Maybe it's just my generation, but we've been waiting for this a long time. Dan, make the script better! Egon, help him!
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Calvin Ravenwood
Youth? How about a fountian of smart?
09:06 PM on 03/02/2012
...enough with the sequels already.
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vincentmerkel
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08:24 PM on 04/16/2012
Friend Hollywood has made sequals since 1932 ....you had King Kong...then Son of Kong ..you had the Thin Man in the 40's and seven Thin Man movies after ...your youth and ignorance of hollywood is showing ...study film before you make such an asinine statement
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MelO86
07:09 PM on 03/02/2012
Murray is a very nice, down to earth guy. I "met" him once in South Carolina, where he apparently walks around town like a normal, everyday person. He was kind enough to hold the door open as we entered behind him. So normal that we barely recognized him. He deserves the acclaim he receives and to not be jabbed for making decisions that he feels are right for him..
07:33 PM on 03/08/2012
Sorry, but the questions people are asking are well founded. Passion Play, and Garfield. I'm sure Bill Murray is happy to live his life the way he wants, but he shouldn't expect kudos if he's going to disregard his fans along the way. Bill Murray has been very blessed. Everything he has in his life (his life included), are God's, and are merely borrowed. Just because God gives you the keys to the car, doesn't mean you get to mistreat it.
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JoeCrownOnTheRocks
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02:00 PM on 03/21/2012
And sometimes God gives you the keys to a lemon.
08:13 PM on 03/08/2012
I'm sure he's a nice guy, but the questions being asked are well founded. A lot of people are getting a glimpse into the real Bill Murray. A nice person doesn't make him/her disingenuous.