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It's Time That We Rethink How We Rate Movies

Posted: 03/ 8/2012 9:06 pm

When I first heard that the Weinstein Company had lost its appeal to overturn the R rating that the MPAA had given to Lee Hirsch's film Bully, I was taken back to 2005 when we opted for an appeal for our Iraq War film Gunner Palace after it also received an R for language. At the time, the war was raging in Iraq, young people were dying every day, coverage of the war was in decline and we thought it was imperative that high school students have access -- unrestricted -- to a film that could help them relate to the conflict. An R rating would make that impossible, not just in the immediate, but also in the future, because few school districts purchase R rated films for their libraries.

So, I flew out to Hollywood with Andy Robbins who ran marketing for our distributor and screened the movie for the appeals board -- which consisted of a juror of a dozen industry representatives and a priest. After they watched the film, we presented our case, Joan Graves from CARA made a rebuttal and we were allowed to close our arguments. As I said my final remarks -- fighting back emotion -- I felt like we were defending not just a film, but an experience, one that the young soldiers in the film lived and we had captured. The language in the film wasn't gratuitous, it was unfiltered reality and if it was offensive, then I reminded the board that war is the greatest profanity of them all.

When we were finished, Andy I were taken to a holding area while the board tallied their votes. An assistant came back a short time later and said the vote was (I believe) 9 to 3. Joan Graves consoled us, as if to say, "Better luck next time fellas." The assistant then said,"No, Joan, they won."

We were elated and thanked the board -- in our eyes, they had done their job that day, which is to say, rules will be challenged and it's imperative that a body that claims to safeguard the community standards of a nation be aware of the currents in that community. The film was released, the MPAA was not bombarded with letters from pressure groups and the film now sits on the shelves of most school libraries. A few years later I was asked about the appeal and in retrospect, it occurred to me how difficult it is to rate reality. Is the little girl running down the street -- burnt by Napalm -- in Nick Ut's famous photograph a PG or an R? What about Buchenwald? Or Abu Ghraib? Are those NC17? When does the public good outweigh the pressure to censor and restrict access to images and words?

Fast forward seven years, as a filmmaker and as the parent of a sixteen year old girl, I'm hugely disappointed that the MPAA upheld the R rating of Bully -- one originally given for six uses of the F-word or variations of it. In the eyes of the MPAA, once you pass two F-Bombs, you automatically have an R. Never mind that in one of the scenes where the F-word is used, a boy is bullied on a school bus by an older boy who also tells the younger that he's going to cut him and assault him with a broom handle. Watching this -- and many scenes in the film -- you often forget that you are in a middle school and not in a prison yard. These are ugly real threats and the escalation and use of language is essential to the film. At it's heart, "Bully" is about the power of words. To understand what these kids are really experiencing you have to hear the language. Editing or bleeping would be an insult to that experience. But the MPAA is not worried about that or the best interests of kids, rather, they are worried about angry pressure groups and commentators, the same sort of people who, ironically, love to throw around words like slut at their enemies.

I thought we were beyond this as a culture -- especially after our appeal -- but it seems that Joan Graves and the MPAA will always have one foot firmly planted in the '50s, a time when the F-word and Allen Ginsberg were threats to their way of life. It's about time that we rethink how we rate movies.

 
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07:37 PM on 04/19/2012
Having met Allen Ginsberg as a 17 year old teenager in 1965, I don't remember him being very foul, just standing on the couch, while reading his poetry, in bare feet, which I thought was very exciting. I saw Bully today, and feel that I can not even decide at what age childrenw(and parents) should NOT be 'required' to see this movie. While attending an 11:00 a.m. showing, the audience was filled with 6th graders from a local elementary school, each and every child had received permission from their parents, not one parent held back and these kids had to pay to see the movie themselves. The school principal (yea) provided the bus.

It is not just language that can make a movie inappropriate for some children, it can be many other things. Those who are in charge of ratings need to watch this movie again and re-rate it, just posting that there is some language. Maybe as they watched it they didn't see the parts of the movie where the students were being abused, etc. I don't want to add any more as it would be a spoiler, but I do consider death of a child far worse than the "f" word. I feel that the value of seeing this movie by children out-weighs a few words.
09:18 PM on 04/11/2012
I honestly don't know how anyone can defend the rating system. It's inexcusable.
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05:34 PM on 03/09/2012
The ratings system is archaic and dumb. They allow you to show gratuitous violence, but nudity and sex is often off-limits. There was a Harvard study a few years ago saying that as a whole, PG, PG-13 and R rated movies all show the same amount of violence. Sex though? Total no-no, and more gratuitous sex can get a movie an NC-17 rating, which tanks the sales and distribution. I don't understand why something that's natural and amazing like (consensual) sex is too damaging to show kids, but showing gratuitous violence is just fine. It's the other way around in most other developed nations. And the language thing for this "Bully" documentary, seriously? Like because they're kids and teens, they use sanitized language while bullying and should have censored themselves during the documentary?

I did a five page paper on this a few months ago, and I'm as annoyed at it all now as I was when I wrote it.
03:25 PM on 03/09/2012
Being over 18 and not having any kids under 18, the ratings mean absolutely nothing to me. I can't even remember the last time I noticed what a film's rating was. There are tens of millions like me.
04:29 PM on 03/09/2012
Yes, but schools notice the ratings, and would be less likely to have viewings of this if it is an R movie, and bullying is a huge problem in schools.
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drunkarate
02:53 PM on 03/09/2012
The MPAA was an industry trick to avoid the government stepping in to create a ratings mechanism. Here, AGAIN, is an example of private industry failing to step up to create a valid alternative to people-powered regulation.
02:20 PM on 03/09/2012
I am in favor of allowing different rules for documentaires and I fully agree that gore and violence need to be rated long before nudity. That being said, I don't consider profanity to have any place in the public venue. I don't care how many people use it and consider it appropriate, it's still disrespectful to use in mixed company. I don't drop the f-bomb in front of my boss or my parents and I would expect the same consideration in return. In a world where every sentence is peppered with profanity it would do us well to learn how to communicate properly again.
11:47 AM on 03/10/2012
It does not matter if it disrespectful its a movie it tells what really goes on. of course you don't want it no one wants it the fact of the matter swearing happens in public stop living in la la land
07:54 PM on 04/19/2012
Perhaps you should see this movie before your make this judgment. This is a documentary, which means they followed the daily routine of these students, their families, local police and school administrators. The purpose of a documentary is to bring forth the truth, and the truth in this case is ABUSE of students by other students. What words do you think the abusers would use? What would you say if your child took his or her life because of student abuse in school? I am glad that you have such self control.
02:04 PM on 03/09/2012
A priest rating movies?
How about a nice reform Rabi instead? They generally have a better sense of humor, and an understanding of rules that matter vs. practical guidelines to be considered.
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01:49 PM on 03/09/2012
It's really quite simple.

Violence up to and including graphic depictions of decapitation, bludgeoning, etc ... should be rated G - because violence is good.

Any kind of foul language (say, any word more offensive than shucks or dagnabit) and any kind of depiction of sexuality (beyond mild cleavage) or nudity (beyond the exposure of the upper reaches of a guy's gluteal cleft - for humorous purposes only) should immediately receive an NC-17 rating - because vulgarity is bad and the human body and sex are both evil.

Of course if the movie shows a naught bit being lopped off by a sword that would call for more thought - is this violence (good) or nudity (evil)? I would think that it would probably be okay for a PG rating, though, just so long as it was made quite clear that violence against a naughty bit is good but that naughty bits, themselves, are evil. In fact, the more, I think about it, I am coming to realize that a film showing the lopping off (violence - good) of naughty bits (evil) shouldn't even require a PG rating as this just a depiction of good triumphing over evil.

And the killing of people who are engaging in non-marital sexual relationships (or in marital relationships for the purpose of pleasure) should be rated G.
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01:19 PM on 03/09/2012
"This Film Is Not Yet Rated" is an excellent and infuriating documentary about this issue. It streams on Netflix and that is where I watched it.
01:17 PM on 03/09/2012
Given what kids can see on their computers in the their own homes today, the MPAA ratings system seems quaint.
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provgrays1
12:15 PM on 03/09/2012
Until gratuitous viloence and gore is rated more offensive than an uncovered breast, the rating system deserves no attention or respect.
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12:05 PM on 03/09/2012
Full disclosure: I know Kirby Dick have worked with Wayne Cramer.

This Film Is Not Yet Rated isn't a masterpiece, and Wayne Cramer is an unmitigated ponce, but still, it's worth putting up with his disingenuous whining and the slightly amateurish whodunit style of the film to begin to learn how the MPAA operates. Yes ourratings system is in need of a change.

I just wish I could take my 13 year old to see Bully.
01:37 PM on 03/09/2012
Well, you can. R does not mean a kid can't see it. Just that their parent has to take them. Not that I agree with the MPAA or the rating systems, just mentioning it.
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01:37 PM on 03/09/2012
Are there places where a 13 yr old with an adult can't see rated R movies? Wow.
04:31 PM on 03/09/2012
A school, one which should be showing this film.
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09:20 PM on 03/09/2012
I was thinking of Canada where R = Restricted - Admittance restricted to people 18 years of age or older.
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11:56 AM on 03/09/2012
More than rethink, they need to scrap the MPAA altogether and start over. That organization is a joke and they have way more power over opportunities for films reaching audiences than they have ever deserved. Get rid of them
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11:49 AM on 03/09/2012
The best criterion is: "will this movie be shown 350 years from now having survived like Shakespeare's plays".
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11:07 AM on 03/09/2012
As usual, religion is involved where it shouldn't be. That is the reason for these ratings. Religion should never influence anything other than religion.