Neal Brennan argues that even though Jay-Z is "the picture of cool," he's not worthy of the title because he steps into the studio and just "goes off the top of his head," while Beyoncé works and grinds and just, well, "surfboardt."
But some of Brennan's guest panelists aren't so keen to agree with him. After all, Jay-Z is one of the greatest rappers ever and is an equally savvy business man. In the great Hova's own words, "I'm not a business man/I'm a business, man."
You can catch the entire episode on "The Approval Matrix" Monday, September 1, at 11 p.m. ET/PT on SundanceTV.