Gwen Harmon, National Civil Rights Museum Rep, Discusses Accuracy Of 'The Help'

The Help

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 02/23/2012 10:07 am Updated: 02/23/2012 10:07 am

Oscar "for your consideration" campaigns are nothing new, but Disney's take on marketing its Oscar-nominated film, "The Help," might make you pause. With offers to cover town hall-style meetings about the film's power to create social change, language describing the film as a "social awakening," and comparisons to classic films, it's hard not to wonder about the authenticity of those claims.

Which is why Moviefone called Gwen Harmon, Director of Governmental and Community Relations at the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis. Turns out, Gwen didn't just offer background on the historical touch points explored in "The Help," but she also grew up in Jackson, Mississippi -- the town where the film is set.

Gwen described her very personal journey with the material, as well as the context in which the movie fits into our present social subconscious - all apropos thoughts before seeing the four-time-nominated film make a showing at this Sunday's ceremony.

You've seen "The Help" - what did you think of it?
I've seen it and I've read the book. I am from Jackson, Mississippi so I read the book first. I thought it was an excellent piece of work. The book was good, engaging. The movie -- of course the cast -- was just phenomenal, well-represented. Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer just did a tremendous job of bringing those characters to life. So that was to me very authentic, how they did that and how they captured the whole moment of that mood back in the 1960s.

In order to ramp up Oscar consideration, Disney has been sending out a bunch of emails inviting folks to town hall-style discussions and calling the film "a social awakening" that incites "social change." In the text they compare "The Help" to classics like "To Kill a Mockingbird," "In the Heat of the Night," "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" and "Norma Rae." Do you think it stacks up with those greats?
I'm not sure if "The Help" will go down as a classic such as "To Kill a Mockingbird." And I say that because "To Kill a Mockingbird" reached literary status first, and then the film followed in the shadow of that. I don't know if the book by Kathryn Stockett will reach that kind of height. But what I think that film does...in this time and space, is for our particular generation -- especially for younger children who don't quite understand what that history was like -- it's a teaching moment. And I think that perhaps what they see today -- nannies and people who serve as butlers and maids and "household managers" as they put it now -- that they understand that these people are still people. They are doing a job of service and every job has dignity. And people should be treated with that kind of respect and dignity -- I'm hoping that's the teaching moment that comes off from "The Help."

Another point, too, is that these other films that Disney is touting "The Help" to be like -- they came out much closer to the time periods they depicted. And "The Help" did not. I know you consider the movie a teachable moment, but do you think this type of film depicting that time period is important for us to see now, or do you feel that there are more current issues that should be tackled?
I think this world is in so much trouble that there's enough room for every right to be highlighted. Every issue should have a moment in the spotlight. But there's no way to hold one aside and say, "Maybe it's too late" or, "How do we connect with today's audience?" because I think the popularity of the film connected tremendously with today's audiences. And people were probably surprised about that. The theater -- the one that I went to anyway -- was a generational representation of women and men who were teenagers to grandmothers. And that's when you have a real connection with an audience -- that's when you really bring about social change. You have to connect throughout the generations. And so even though it happened back in the sixties,I think right now, [in] America, there's a sting there when it comes to class. The "haves" versus the "have nots," those who are there to serve us...I think until we start bridging that gap today -- and hopefully films like "The Help" will help us do that -- as a society we're going to remain in a lot of trouble.

As far as the historical accuracy goes - "The Help" includes the Medgar Evers assassination, an actual historical event, but I'm curious to know of other things in the film that are accurate, and maybe others that aren't so much. For example: having separate bathrooms for the help - is that something that really happened?
Well, there was a social line you did not cross if you were a black person working for a white family. Certainly you did not eat in the dining room with the white family -- you ate in the kitchen. In some households, you didn't use the same flatwear or table settings. There were a lot of rules -- it depended on who the lady of the house was and how liberal she was. But certainly there were some strict limitations, some strict racial limitations.

What about the character Hilly Holbrook's "Home Help Sanitation Initiative" - is that based on anything factual?
That was a creative liberty. But all the Jim Crow laws...which were, you know, blacks could not sit at the front of the bus -- and that created the Montgomery Movement, and that was led by maids. If you understand the history of that movement in 1955 in Montgomery, Alabama -- Dr. King's first movement -- 70 percent of the bus patrons in Montgomery were black women who were maids. And with 70 percent of your customers not riding the buses for 13 months, it brought that system to its knees. So that represents to me just how powerful a network those women really had when they stood together.

You mentioned earlier that you're from Jackson, Mississippi -- where "The Help" takes place. Did you or anyone you know have similar experiences to those depicted in the film?
There's a scene where they show the black movie patrons going up to the balcony to be seated in the movie theater. That brought back a lot of memories. We sat in the balcony - we weren't allowed to sit down in the larger theater seats. The balcony only would seat about 50 people and it was dark and tight, and then the downstairs was just like a regular movie theater. Not being able to go into a restaurant and order food through the front door -- you had to go through the back door. So there were some painful memories, there were some accurate memories. That part of it hit home for a lot of the people who went to see it, from Mississippi. They remember those days very clearly.

Did you just grow up knowing that was the way things operated? Or did your parents have to explain it to you? I'm struggling to understand how any parent would explain that system to a child.
You grow up knowing as a child that there's certain things you can and cannot do because of your color. Your parents and your grandparents explain it, of course every child questions why. And the most common answer you'd get is that's just the way it is. And I think for my generation, there was always a quiet moment of waiting -- because we knew that wasn't a good enough answer. So you kept waiting for the day, the year, the moment when "That's the way it is" wasn't good enough. And they came in a series of different moments -- it came in the Montgomery Bus Boycott, it came in the lunch counter sit-ins, it came with the Freedom Riders. And that's when you saw that generation of 20-something-year-olds becoming very active in the movement. Standing up and against that "It's just the way it is" saying, "No, it's not the way it is -- it's not the way it's going to be."

Have you ever advised any Hollywood productions?
We've actually had a couple studios come to our site to film some scenes. And before they'd do it they'd let us read the script and would ask us about certain aspects of what they were doing.

Do you have any words of encouragement for Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer, since they're both up for Oscars this coming Sunday?
We're very proud of the way that they portrayed the women in the film. It was accurate, it was done with dignity and compassion - we saw our mothers, our grandmothers, our aunts, our neighbors, our church members in their portrayals. And we're just very proud of them and their work, and we're very proud of the film.

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Oscar "for your consideration" campaigns are nothing new, but Disney's take on marketing its Oscar-nominated film, "The Help," might make you pause. With offers to cover town hall-style meetings about...
Oscar "for your consideration" campaigns are nothing new, but Disney's take on marketing its Oscar-nominated film, "The Help," might make you pause. With offers to cover town hall-style meetings about...
 
 
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04:26 AM on 02/27/2012
I thought the way this blog was written was a unique way to present an argument because when people think of blogs they normally do not think of an interview. But the topic of this blog really appealed to me because I have seen this movie and I loved it. I think that it did a good job portraying how the South really was during that time period. There were White people who were against slavery, who tried to help out their family’s slaves and since White babies were basically raised by Black women, they saw how Blacks were actually treated by their biological parents. According to reader DonaldD, Gwen Harmon is a credible source based on all of her experiences by stating, “I can now go and watch the movie and believe that I am seeing a real slice of American history,” and I agree with him. She grew up in the South and in the state that “The Help” took place in. I also agree with him because he has a very optimistic outlook on this blog and so do I. I thought this movie was very inspiring and it made me want to stand up to all people who do not treat me well.
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04:21 PM on 02/26/2012
Is "The Help" a documentary? Is it based on someones actual life or memoirs? Don't see the reason for all the outcry. This is Hollywood. When has this place ever been known for reality?
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11:22 AM on 02/26/2012
I read several reviews of The Help before I saw it. Upon seeing this excellent movie, I truly couldn't understand the negative comments. In addition, our family now has a standing joke about chocolate pie.
If nothing else, that segment will be remembered for a very long time. I doubt very much that the academy will show that clip tonight.
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04:12 AM on 02/26/2012
The Help was a good read and quite accurate and better than the movie however there is another horror left out: the sexual assaults that my ancestors endured and the light skinned children they were forced to give birth to. Segregation wasn't as strong as you'd think. How many reading this article and these messages never gave a thought to George Washington's Black descendants?
Also, if this writer can get all this attention on just dealing with the south then I might as well go on ahead and write about how northerners treated their maids. I can tell a story of how my Grandmother was badly treated by these women up here and many of them in NYC were Jewish and PREJUDICED TO THE HILT. Then of course how many of these poor women had to run from the male bosses (dogs) chasing after them? This is NY now, not the south!
I also really need to write about the immigrant Black women from the Caribbean who encountered Jim Crow and racism and who cheered when the Civil Rights movement started. Black immigrants coming here today don't care what others endured before them and just like to ride the coattails of others work. Telling the stories changes that dynamic and also would change that talk about "I'd be much further if I had access to all of this" without bothering to acknowledge the extreme barriers that racism brings. Malcolm X (half Grenadian) would slap them for such ignorance.
03:58 AM on 02/26/2012
Disney is the same company that made "Song of the South" containing some of the worst racial stereotypes ever depicted on film.

I share Melissa Harris-Perry's take on "The Help".

“This is not a movie about the lives of black women,” she clarified, as their lives were not, she argued, “Real Housewives of Jackson, Mississippi… it was rape, it was lynching, it was the burning of communities.” She then explained that it was, to her, completing the work started by the Daughters of the American Confederacy when they “found money in the federal budget to erect a granite statue of Mammy in the shadow of the Lincoln Memorial,” which happened while the same Senate contingency failed to pass the Dyer Anti-Lynching Bill. “It is the same notion that the fidelity of black women domestics is more important than the realities of the lives, the pain, the anguish, the rape that they experienced.”

“It’s ahistorical and deeply troubling,” she argued, to make the suffering of these laborers a backdrop for a happy story. But there was a silver lining to the film, and Harris Perry concluded on a good note: actress Viola Davis‘s buzz was well-earned. “What kills me,” she concluded, “is that in 2011 Viola Davis is reduced to playing a maid.”
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04:10 PM on 02/26/2012
Viola Davis has played many excellent parts. Her body of work has hardly been diminished by this role. You can't "write" all the wrongs of this era in one movie.
07:19 PM on 02/26/2012
That hardly conflicts with what Melissa Harris-Perry said.

Do you know who Melissa even is?
02:42 AM on 02/26/2012
I loved the book and read it in two days. I also loved the movie. What this movie depicts is still going on in parts of our Country and the World today. It also resonates with us at this time now because our President is black and I have not liked they way he has been treated with the birthers, not being Religious enough, being a Muslim, having people threaten him,,,,,,having Governor Jan from Arizona stick her finger in his face,,,,,,etc etc. etc....and of course we all remember John McCain calling him "THAT ONE" during the Presidential debates and not looking at him as a human being.

I am rooting for the movie, "The Help".........I do hope Viola Davis or Ms. Spencer walk away with the golden statue.

Enjoy the show......
07:19 PM on 02/25/2012
It shows the White Wealth with black labor. To me, the movie was dead on.
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06:17 PM on 02/25/2012
Yes, I was prepared to hate "The Help" just as I was prepared to hate "The Color Purple," I was very pleasantly surprised. The author turned this work of "faction" into a heartfelt, beautiful story. What's most brilliant is her depiction of the white women and how utterly vacuous their lives were. The irony of the thread of commonality between themselves and their help is a fact they'd never admit.....both were victims--both were oppressed. The "pretend-to-be" genteel southern belles a la Scarlett O'Hara were shadows of their husbands; ghosts of Tara's theme.with no room for their ever trying to attain any semblance of self-actualization. I felt pity for them. Yes,,,there were flaws--but mostly in the film. The white-skinned child that Constantine had to put in an orphanage brought up the color issue of dark-skinned versus light-skinned Blacks. The dyed-in-the-wool racists didn't give a hoot about what shade of Black you were....they still hated you. Another key omission--the rampant rape and kidnap of Black women ( "At the Dark End of the Street"). I write with authority-- I was arrested as a Freedom Rider in the Gwynn Oaks Amusement Park Demonstration in Baltimore (much less horrendous than Mississippi); and my grandmother began her life of servitude as a "kitchen girl" at the opulent Biltmore Estate age 14. Her words still ring in my ears today...."if I ever catch you in a white woman's kitchen....".
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08:46 PM on 02/25/2012
Well, to assuage my disgust with the typical junk Hollywood produces, how about some feel good movies about productive and educated Black people?

Ya think?
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07:32 PM on 02/27/2012
I agree. I loved "The Great Debaters" and "Akilah and The Bee." They both made me feel proud. I was trying to deal with "The Help."
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02:37 PM on 02/25/2012
I wouldn't watch this movie ( The Help ) if you paid me to. From looking at the previews, I see this movie reinforces negative stereotypes that are very disturbing....
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06:22 PM on 02/25/2012
I am sorry that you feel this way. I also felt the same way at first. " I couldn't help but state out loud in my bedroom: "The Help. A demeaning movie about black people reinforcing negative stereotypes. I don't want to see this. It is bad enough that this country treats President Obama like some hired help instead of the extremely educated and qualified man that he is." I eventually relented and went to see it with one of my daughters. Watching black women in subservient roles, demeaning roles was not what I wanted to be reminded of. My mom called me that day, and stated to me that it was very important for me to see what her generation and her mom's generation lived through and had to endure so that this generation could have the basic human right to drink from a water fountain which wasn't marked, "COLORED." The degregation and indignities were just so pervasive and "normal" for those times.

Mom was raised in the south, in South Carolina, during the Jim Crow era, and her stories of degrading and demeaning behavior stayed with me and my siblings all of my life. Mom and Dad made it a point to preach education, and we all took advantage of the opportunities that were afforded to us. It was women like the ones in "The Help" who did their work with dignity, grace and courage and that is we stand today, because of people like them.
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08:34 PM on 02/25/2012
I respect your opinion but the way I see it, this is just another Hollywood movie that is taking jabs at Black people and trying to hide it. They did the same thing with the new movie, Red Tails.

Pathetic.
02:37 AM on 02/26/2012
I read the book in two days. I loved the movie. Your post sums it well.
I am not from the South but have been to the South plenty.
Amen to your statement about our President and the disturbing facts from the book that resonate with our President today.
I was thinking exactly the same thing what you posted.
Fanned and faved...........if you watch the Oscars enjoy the show,,,,,,,Julia
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06:23 PM on 02/25/2012
In my opinion the negative stereotypes are "reversed." This is very interesting to me.
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11:07 AM on 02/26/2012
Exactly. I read the book; haven't seen the film yet.
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01:48 PM on 02/25/2012
Some of the criticism of "The Help" has been very narrow minded. I even heard one women radio host refer to it as a "chic flick". In case people haven't been paying attention to politics, these same predjudices are cloaked within the rhetoric of statements and policies of candidates today. The claim that the president was not born in the U.S. is simply a distraction to undermine his character. The birth control controversy goes back to the fears that a black man is controlling sexuality, a fear that made "mixed" marriages illegal. Statements claiming the Girl Scouts are a front for Planned Parenthood and starting new organizations like "American Heritage Girls", are simply excuses to create exclusive communities. Charter schools are simply another way to segregate and defund education for the general public, taking monies from public education for what is virtually private schools. The new category of "the working poor" is another example of the catch phrases used to describe the "haves and the have nots". Wealthy people buy property across the globe and have no real loyalty to any nation, except those who give them tax breaks and undeclared income. We all need help, because we've become "The Help".
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04:42 PM on 02/25/2012
Congratulations on your post, you really made some valid points .........you are Favorite & Fanned
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12:02 PM on 02/25/2012
My son's class is learning about the Civil War. The idea of racism is so foreign to him that he can't understand the concept, and neither can many of his classmates. I was talking to his teacher about this and we agreed that it was a good thing that they are being raised in homes that look at all people as being equal, but they still need to know the history, so that nothing like this can ever happen again. She said that many of the students first glimpse into the idea of racism was in recently seeing the movie "The Help" and they were appalled and couldn't believe that anything like that could have ever happened. I read the book and loved it and can't wait to see the movie, I think I'll rent it tonight.
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04:46 PM on 02/25/2012
As a senior citizen, who lived through much of the civil rights struggle. I recommend, you see the movie........you are Favorite & Fanned
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11:41 AM on 02/26/2012
It not only can happen again; it is happening now.
11:29 AM on 02/25/2012
I read the book in two days. Loved it then saw the move and loved it too.
The core of the book is still going on in the South.

Thank you Rosa Parks and others who stood up and took chances.
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09:09 AM on 02/25/2012
I am white,my husband is black. We recently watched the movie together. I sat there with tears streaming down my face at times,he sat stoically. I ached for what had happened ,and what still happens today,when one race thinks they are more superior than another. I held his hand and told him I felt like I should apologize for the way the white race behaves. He said " that's just the way it was Ignorance has been around forever.You are not responsible."
mrshep
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04:49 PM on 02/25/2012
You and your husband, are both very understanding individuals....you are Favorite & Fanned
02:48 AM on 02/26/2012
Mimi: Thank you for sharing your touching story.
So many of us still need the cobwebs swept out of our head and a post like this sums it up well.
Fanned and faved.........and enjoy the show tomorrow night if you watch.
Loved the movie and the book and your post................Julia
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01:30 AM on 02/25/2012
Perhaps I was born in a more liberal California, but then I hear much later there WAS defacto segregation here, like blacks had to live in Compton (where I lived when very little) and the whole Nat King Cole issue, then hear some stories from black coworkers about leaving Mississippi around that time, and others who like another comment about Texas back then, another coworker had the same experience.......and then even today seems to me it's even more evident when you go to very affluent westside LA communities and see the gardeners and household help that come in while the 'masters' are away........in a way it seems like progress has been made but yet there's still a way to go.
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04:55 PM on 02/25/2012
Yes there is a long way to go. We have to keep pushing in the right direction. We can not let anyone, take us backwards, as some are trying to do now.....you are Favorite & Fanned
Vote a Democratic Congress & President Obama
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11:42 AM on 02/26/2012
F and F.
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05:41 PM on 02/25/2012
The myth of California is that it is liberal and enlightened. I spent most of my life there and racism is quite alive and "well" there. I now live in New Orleans and while yes, people tend to hide their racism more back in Calif, I'm not sure it's really overall any different from the South. Of course New Orleans is a breath of fresh air and almost doesn't even exist in the USA, but somewhere else, it's like a European city.
12:18 AM on 02/25/2012
I lived in the south in the sixties. I would never live in the south again. I was nor raised with prejudice and was not prepared to watch people that had a different skin color suffer the indignities that were part of that culture. My hope is some day we don't feel the need to feel important by demeaning someone else.
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07:18 PM on 02/25/2012
I would live in the south. I have visited and lived in South Carolina where my mom resides and I love it there! My mom knows most of the people in her town and she has a good relationship with many of her neighbors and the white folks in the city. Most of them are very nice and very tolerant. You will find racist and bigoted people everywhere. I am from NYC and their are racists here too. As liberal and progressive as NYC appears, we have many segregated communities. I grew up on Long Island and my neighbors were white and they were very open and welcome.