'Bully' Documentary: Weinstein Company Loses Appeal Over R-Rating

First Posted: 02/23/2012 8:25 pm Updated: 02/23/2012 8:25 pm

Who's the bully in this case -- movie mogul Harvey Weinstein or the MPAA ratings board?

As expected, the MPAA turned down Weinstein's appeal over the R-rating it gave to "Bully," a documentary about schoolhouse bullying. Due for release on March 30, "Bully" earned the restrictive rating on the basis of "some language." Arguing that the film's educational benefits outweighed the instances of profanity, Harvey Weinstein defended the film before the ratings board on Thursday, bringing along Alex Libby (one of the bullied kids in the film) to deliver a personal plea. Nonetheless, the board stuck by its initial decision; according to a TWC press release, "the final tally was one vote short of the number needed to reverse the decision."

Ratings battles are nothing new for Weinstein. The heavyweight producer has a quarter-century history of fighting with the MPAA over ratings. Sometimes he wins -- as with 2010's "Blue Valentine," which he successfully pleaded down from an NC-17 to an R, arguing that the oral sex scene at issue in the film was no more explicit than the one in "Black Swan," which came out at the same time but had no trouble earning an R. (The result: a wider release and an Oscar nomination for Michelle Williams.) Sometimes he doesn't; Weinstein was unsuccessful in pleading for a PG-13 rating for "The King's Speech," which also had some sprinkled profanity that had earned the film an R. While the handful of f-words were actually crucial to the plot, the MPAA determined that there were still too many f-bombs (that is, more than one) to avoid an R. The result, nonetheless: extra publicity, a domestic take of $139 million, and four Academy Awards, including Best Picture. (After the film had earned the bulk of its money, Weinstein did release a PG-13 version that silenced the offending words, but it barely made a peep at the box office.)

As with "The King's Speech," Weinstein's "Bully" appeal was based on the film's educational merit. "I want every child, parent, and educator in America to see 'Bully,' so it is imperative for us to gain a PG-13 rating," Weinstein said in a statement a few days ago. "It's better that children see bad language than bad behavior, so my wish is that the MPAA considers the importance of this matter as we make this appeal." Granted, maximizing the number of kids who can see the film also maximizes its profits, but the educational argument seems even more valid with "Bully" than with "Speech." Director Lee Hirsch's documentary is not a fictionalized retelling, and the filmmakers have developed an online trove of informational resources and calls to action to accompany the documentary.

That said, it's not at all clear that "Bully" would have less impact without its occasional "language." There's no reason that Weinstein, who usually has little reticence about editing the films he acquires, couldn't trim or silence the offending words in "Bully" in order to earn a PG-13. The MPAA's rule that one f-word means PG-13 and two means R may be arbitrary, but it's also one of the few explicit and well-defined edicts among the MPAA's often murky and inconsistent rationales behind its decision-making. As film critic Scott Mendelson noted, "This isn't about artistic freedom. The film will be released in theaters on March 30th, be it with an uncut R-rated version or an altered-PG-13 cut. But, however we might disagree with said ratings guidelines, Weinstein and company surely knew what they were and made the choice to intentionally flaunt them while they were editing their finished product."

Of course, don't expect Weinstein to stop pursuing the PG-13 rating for "Bully." Following the MPAA's decision, the TWC head released this impassioned statement:

As of today, The Weinstein Company is considering a leave of absence from the MPAA for the foreseeable future. We respect the MPAA and their process but feel this time it has just been a bridge too far.

I have been through many of these appeals, but this one vote loss is a huge blow to me personally. Alex Libby gave an impassioned plea and eloquently defended the need for kids to be able to see this movie on their own, not with their parents, because that is the only way to truly make a change.

With school-age children of my own, I know this is a crucial issue and school districts across the U.S. have responded in kind. The Cincinnati school district signed on to bus 40,000 of their students to the movie - but because the appeals board retained the R rating, the school district will have to cancel those plans.

I personally am going to ask celebrities and personalities worldwide, from Lady Gaga (who has a foundation of her own) to the Duchess of Cambridge (who was a victim of bullying and donated wedding proceeds) to First Lady Michelle Obama (whose foundation has reached out to us as well), to take a stand with me in eradicating bullying and getting the youth into see this movie without restriction.

Whether that bluster and celebrity firepower winds up working -- or whether "Bully" will be recut -- remains to be seen, but one thing is certain: you can't buy this kind of publicity.

The currently rated-R "Bully" arrives in limited release on March 30.

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Who's the bully in this case -- movie mogul Harvey Weinstein or the MPAA ratings board? As expected, the MPAA turned down Weinstein's appeal over the R-rating it gave to "Bully," a documentary abou...
Who's the bully in this case -- movie mogul Harvey Weinstein or the MPAA ratings board? As expected, the MPAA turned down Weinstein's appeal over the R-rating it gave to "Bully," a documentary abou...
 
 
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07:59 AM on 02/26/2012
Its a shame that this continues , and will most likely keep happening. I was bullied in school. I had to stand up for myself and yes I did get beat up. I would not want my child or any other child to go through this. But it looks like we are ineffective at stopping this. Not only does this go on in schools, it happens all over. People like to hurt each other. It helps them feel like they have power. What a shame!
07:45 AM on 02/26/2012
So does profanity in a movie make it better?
06:58 AM on 02/26/2012
Truth of the matter is the world needs CEOs , Attorneys, groceries baggers and fast food workers.I think if we teach our kids that they can expect to be bullied and to expect to be treated badly at times they will be more successful at life and take rejection better. No bodies perfect and we all make mistakes and we all get teased. I am sorry if some of you have children that are being bullied, but if you are teach your child that what goes around comes around and when they are in the cool crowd they should remember how it felt like to be picked on or ridiculed they will treat others better. This will help them cope better with life and life's disappointments they are going to face down the road. Some of you may say I stupid or naive but the reality of it my points are valid and true. My kids have faced most of the same teasing that I did as I child but they cope with it fine and are well adjusted young adults.
07:55 AM on 02/26/2012
But not everybody does cope with it as easily as your children. If your child committed suicide after being bullied would you want bullying to be a bigger deal? My sister was handicapped and pushed down and teased her entire life, up until the time she had a stroke in 9th grade, sitting in a wheelchair for 9 years until she finally died. She never grew over 4'10" and 49lbs How do you teach someone like that to stand up to themselves? The problem is the how to teach the parents to teach their children NOT to bully. Not all will. That's when the laws need to be passed, because not all children are like yours and mine.
11:26 AM on 02/26/2012
I think the laws are bogus, what we need and what worked for me is to beat the crap out of the aggressor. I tell my kids that if someone harasses you stand up for your self and if they keep picking on you beat the crap out of them. I taught my children at a very young age to box. Not so they would have to fight but so that they so that would not have to. The world is filled with degenerates and some times the only way to protect your self is to fight your own battle. That's what I have taught my children
06:57 AM on 02/26/2012
When did we become such a nation of pansies? I am a 41 year old man and I can remember being bullied because I was poor and wore floods or high waters pants, then because I was a minority, a Nerd, with braces and glasses, and fat.I did not need to learn about bullying in a movie or have the school sponsor anti bullying programs.
What I am saying is it taught me how to cope with lifes problems and deal with rejection and learn to accept things that were different than me. Its not like all of a sudden kids started having a hard time determinig they are homosexual or because they lives with their Mom and her friend Aunt Judy (2 Mommies). These things have existed in our school & society and has been part of adolescents since I was a boy.
I think we do our kids a great disservice when we tell them everyone is equally. Face it the world is not a nice place, but the reality of it is when the kids of today apply for jobs or college and they are rejected they realize that the world is not fair and not every one is created equal. The world can be a very cold and lonely place.
07:58 AM on 02/26/2012
But not everybody does cope with it as easily as you did. My sister was handicapped and pushed down and teased her entire life, up until the time she had a stroke in 9th grade, sitting in a wheelchair for 9 years until she finally died. She never grew over 4'10" and 49lbs If you were her parent and she came to you, would your response be, "toughen up, quit being a pansy"?
11:21 AM on 02/26/2012
I am sorry to hear about your sister. I'm not good with hypothetical situations,
04:30 AM on 02/26/2012
I teach in middle school. If ANYONE thinks these kids are not familiar with or use "R and X" rated language, they are living in another universe!! Heck, they would like to take credit for inventing it!
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wolfcon89
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03:19 AM on 02/26/2012
I have no problem seeing the R rated version with all the bad words in but if they want this eventually played in schools as a way to talk about bullying they are going to have to get it down to PG13
07:59 AM on 02/26/2012
They showed Shindler's List in schools, that was Rated R.
02:29 AM on 02/26/2012
Weinstein is not being terribly honest. Just watching the short trailer indicates that profanity is not the only issue keeping the movie from being rated PG-13. It also depicts acts of violence against young children. That's no surprise since the documentary is titled "Bully," but it also deals with kids killing themselves. This is the type of movie a lot of parents would want to see with their kids and not have the choice taken away from them by Weinstein or even the school district. Weinstein also stretched the truth, if not outright lied when he said he lost by one vote. That's nonsense. According to the MPAA site a movie that might otherwise deserve an R rating could be granted a PG-13 rating if two-thirds of the rating panel votes in favor of the change. The bottom line, though, is that MPAA is sticking by the rules that govern what ratings a movie receives. If Weinstein doesn't like that, then change the rules, but don't act surprised when the MMPAA is simply following the rules as they currently exist.
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Peter Nadreau
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02:11 AM on 02/26/2012
Since when does the woefully outdated rating system actually mean anything anyway. The MPAA has proven over & over that it shouldn't have the right to parent everything society sees. Grow up America! Take your country back!
01:26 AM on 02/26/2012
Who goes the theater and pay 10 bucks to see a documentary anyway??? release it to DVD unrated and let the schools show it... oh wait, no profit in that.
01:08 AM on 02/26/2012
I'm a parent, not a prude. I don't use the so called "F" word in front of my child who is almost 13. I wouldn't take or allow her to watch a movie that contained that language, no matter how "educational" the Producer proclaimed it to be. Seriously, we can't educate our kids without profanity? I'm not stupid, I realize kids hear a lot at school and even from their parents. I simply don't see the need for a huge majority of it that is used by the movie industry.

Have I ever cussed, yes of course, but I don't curse to the degree that I see/hear in most of the movies that come out of Hollywood and I don't talk trash in front of my kid. What does it add to the plot? In most instances, nothing.

Weinstein is just using this as a publicity stunt to get people talking about the movie and up his ticket sales. Guess what, it looks like its working...
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wolfcon89
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03:17 AM on 02/26/2012
I agree that he could have edited it out but it is a kid saying the F word. It's not as if they added it in or something
08:04 AM on 02/26/2012
You know what I think is interesting. WHO?...decided which words were bad words and which ones aren't... just asking. I think it would be funny to see a SNL skit with people sitting around a table voting on new words and which ones should and should not be considered a "bad" word... Just saying. Dang, darn, fudge, heck, shoot, ...are all ok, but they mean the same thing as... @#$#^%^$$ ...lol
09:24 AM on 02/26/2012
Ask and ye shall receive!
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nycbillt
01:06 AM on 02/26/2012
The MPAA should look at reality based decisions. The f- bomb is used in elementary school playgrounds to board room. When are they going to realize that the kids they are trying to protect know far more than they think. They might as well try and stop the tide. With this decision they are making sure the people who need to see the more than anyone else can not see it. Good going guys. Let's not do anything to fight bullying. Seems to me they are the bullies in this situation.
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Sethjj1975
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11:47 PM on 02/25/2012
I hope Weinstein wins the battle. but if not I hope he has the sense to edit the language out so that a broader audience can view this movie. That said, a few dirty words are the least of the problems facing young people today. They're simply words and the majority of people offended spend most of their time going out of their way to be offended.
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mgroteii
10:41 PM on 02/25/2012
Bunch of prudes. Guess what? Kids use profanity (as do their parents). You can get a PG-13 showing gory violence (like beheading or dismemberment not to mention realistic gun violence) but use the dreaded "F WORD" or show a bare breast or sexual situation...MY GOD, SPARE THE CHILDRED! Please. Grow the "f" up.
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Dean M Miller
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10:36 PM on 02/25/2012
its never good or ok to let our young people hear profanity. ever.

the solution is so simple. take it out of the movie. im tired of all the cliche cussing and sex scenes in movies being made recently. and no child of mine will be going to see a R rated movie, period.
11:43 PM on 02/25/2012
You sound FUN.
10:15 PM on 02/25/2012
I bet if they really wanted to lose the R they could have bleeped the words....