Anthony Hemingway, 'Red Tails' Director, on George Lucas, Air Fights and Selling Young Viewers on the Tuskegee Airmen

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The Huffington Post   Eric Larnick First Posted: 01/18/12 01:18 PM ET Updated: 01/18/12 01:19 PM ET

Making your debut as a feature film director is already enough of a high-pressure situation, but for "Red Tails" director Anthony Hemingway, it was a once-in-a-lifetime scenario. "Red Tails," a rollicking World War II adventure movie about the Tuskegee Airmen -- the highly decorated all-black aviation unit that ran over 200 successful bomber escort missions and helped desegregate the military -- started as a passion project for "Star Wars" mastermind George Lucas. The project sat in development for years, unable to find a major studio willing to fund a blockbuster featuring a predominantly black cast. Lucas eventually put up all the production money himself, and searched for an African-American voice to helm the movie.

Lucas discovered Hemingway in the world of television, where he was gaining attention for his work on the acclaimed HBO drama "The Wire." (He now serves as executive producer / director on "Treme.") Hemingway spoke with Moviefone about his experiences working with Lucas, the pressure of inheriting a high-stakes project from a Hollywood legend, and how "Red Tails" hopes to succeed with modern audiences.

What was the bigger selling point for this movie: filming the story of the Tuskegee Airmen or working with George Lucas?
Knowing that my first film was going to be a story of relevant importance with integrity, and knowing that I have such a personal connection to the Tuskegee Airmen, that was major. That preceded George for me -- but then to work with one of the kings in the industry, I was like a kid in a candy store.

Were you a big "Star Wars" geek growing up?
I'm not gonna lie, I was not a big "Star Wars" geek. It's funny, I remember watching them, but that kind of world was so... I don't know. Over the last five years, I started to really acquire a taste for more sci-fi; I'm a realist, I like real things, not too much fantasy. I grew up watching Westerns.

If you weren't a huge "Star Wars" fan growing up, did you feel relieved from some of the pressure of inheriting his passion project?
It allowed me to have a fresher approach to it. When you sit on something for so long you can't see beyond it. It's all you can see, so you become locked in it. Thankfully I didn't have that problem because I came in from such a different way.

How did George surprise you in the collaboration?
My initial thought was that he was gonna be micro-managing, hands-on; was I going to be able to do my job? "He's going to be looking over my shoulder every day." But it was such an amazing, creative collaborative opportunity where he allowed me to do my job. He was connected and in-tune with what was going on, but he allowed me to come in and do the job he hired me for. And I completely respect him for that.

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As a director, how do you convey drama and suspense in an air fight, when it's a single shot on someone sitting in a cockpit?
It's really, really challenging. I had the opportunity to do a process called "pre-vis" which is where you take storyboards for all the action sequences, you give them to a group of computer artists who then animate those storyboards. I was able to build and create all the action sequences before we even started filming. It was a really great opportunity for me to then sit with the actors, and talk about the sequences, so they knew what I was asking. They could connect the dots.

It's a very old-school movie in tone. There's no ironic detachment, the characters are very noble and the movie doesn't assault the viewer with music video-style editing. How do you maintain that spirit without a modern audience rolling their eyes at it?
I put everybody through the paces. Whether it was boot camp or flight training, I wanted to really submerge us back into that period of time the best way I could. You look at a lot of young talent today and everyone is so contemporary. I had to keep reiterating that it's a different time. The mannerisms of back then to now are so different; even the way people talk, the way people sit, the way people walk. I pretty much demanded that they go to boot camp, strip them of everything contemporary. [Laughs] We live in a society today where nobody is connected anymore; everyone's on their phones and Blackberrys and iPhones -- and that was such a different time. People talked and socialized, there was a camaraderie, they bonded. I think all of what we did living together, the environment that George and [co-producer] Rick [McCallum] set up for us, was really effective in keeping us in that mentality.

What's the toughest challenge you have selling "Red Tails" to contemporary young audiences?
Trying to target a younger audience is challenging because I know this a story that they don't know about. Growing up, I didn't really know who the Tuskegee Airmen were. I knew that they existed, but I didn't know their history until that HBO movie came out in '95. That's where it began for me, I wanted to know more. But just trying to find ways to connect with kids: if I check out, then it's not working ... That's the trick, 'cause so many people would quickly check out when you're talking about war stories. But to turn this around and make it about heroics and heroes was very cool.

Trying to make a historically accurate WWII character drama seems like such a departure in current pop culture. What is your take on how Hollywood has to market this movie to modern audiences?
This definitely is not the norm because George couldn't sell it to a studio in the beginning. He had to independently fund this movie himself.

Which is surprising because it's George Lucas.
Exactly. I really hope it helps to bridge a gap and help us refresh ourselves again. Open the door for stories and materials like this. This is a fun roller-coaster ride that is entertaining, that shocks you with inspiration and great hope. It's a really great American story that I think will help our country, as well as kids today, to be engaged and empowered, to be excellent and realize it's cool to be smart. It's not a problem to be great and do good things.

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Making your debut as a feature film director is already enough of a high-pressure situation, but for "Red Tails" director Anthony Hemingway, it was a once-in-a-lifetime scenario. "Red Tails," a rollic...
Making your debut as a feature film director is already enough of a high-pressure situation, but for "Red Tails" director Anthony Hemingway, it was a once-in-a-lifetime scenario. "Red Tails," a rollic...
 
 
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11:39 AM on 01/19/2012
I will be taking my grandson to see this great movie. Yes, i am proud of my history.
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MilesLong
Livin' the Dream
10:33 AM on 01/19/2012
I was privileged to attend a red carpet screening of Red Tails last Sunday in Chicago. There were a couple of documentary shorts shown prior to the screening. But, the best part were the handful of the original Tuskegee Airmen who attended and talked to attendees.

The audience was thoroughly engaged and the movie was great. I plan to take friends to see it this opening weekend for two reasons: it's a great movie, and I want to do my part in pumping up the numbers to spit in the eye of a Hollywood that would not support a project with no white leads in it.

Miles "See You At The Movies" Long
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will357
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06:25 PM on 01/18/2012
George, thanks for getting this to the BIG SCREEN. So many historical pieces that can be shown on the Silver screen concerning "Black" people. The 3 Black Popes, the Black Roman Emperors, Black Queensof Europe(Quenn Charlotte) she was not the only one, and on and on. Tyler Perry, Will Smith, Denzel, Oprah...get your heads out your butt's. Let's get movies from our past shining the light where we were Kings, builders of civilizations creators of science, medicine and mathematics, astronomy, alchemy etc and not SLAVES!
j hawkins
No tea for me !
03:53 PM on 01/18/2012
There where Black airmen ? Don't tell Newt,Rush,Glenn or Billo the clown !
03:49 PM on 01/18/2012
AARRRGH!!! I absolutely HATE Terrence Howard's newfound FAKE voice. He can act, but he has to give up that...voice....whatever its supposed to be.
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liberaldawg
Spalding Gray in a Rick Dees world.
03:45 PM on 01/18/2012
Always been fascinated with the Tuskegee Airmen. I'm guessing that flying in combat hundreds of miles
behind enemy lines would be terrifying to many. These men had their mettle tested over
Europe but succeeded because they had already faced fire at home. I admire them so
much.
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triplettam
Mind Bender
10:10 PM on 01/18/2012
Never lost a plane they were guarding. Even deep South bomber captains would request them. Helluva story.
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Age Of Aquarius
Sorry, republicans...my one term lasts 2,160 years
12:49 AM on 01/19/2012
That was a statistic used in the fantastic HBO film that was done, but it has since been proven false. They reportedly lost about 25 bombers, by their own account and by incident reports that were filed at the time.

The information was always there, but no one had bothered to place all the data together. This is the reason that all movies based on actual events have that disclaimer at the end that says "incidents and characters may have been changed for dramatic purposes".

I'd bought into the hype myself until I decided to check around a bit. The information is quite easy to find. Though they certainly lost some bombers, the bombers lost versus the ones they protected is quite small given the totality of their many missions.

My problem is that, after I saw the 7-minute preview of this film...this movie looks like a poorly-acted, special effects heavy step-child of the far superior HBO film.
Any interest I had in seeing it went down in flames after seeing the terrible performances, from Cuba and Terrence, in particular.

Having seen some of Mr. Hemingway's fairly nuanced direction on "The Wire" and "Treme", I'd say his assertion that George Lucas gave him complete autonomy is a rather disingenuous statement--because the poorly acted sequences absolutely REEK of Lucas' ham-handed direction of actors in all of his movies...especially those "Star Wars" prequels.
03:02 PM on 01/18/2012
Studios don't want to take risks. That's why they're churning out movies based on books, comics and TV shows or doing sequels, prequels, and remakes. All of those have a built-in audience. But I also have to wonder whether Lucas knew about the HBO movie from 1995. HBO is where you do movies that won't do well in theaters. The upcoming Game Change movie or Too Big To Fail are good examples. Did Lucas really think things have changed? Or did he think having his name attached would fill theater seats?
10:36 PM on 01/18/2012
The HBO movie became larger than they anticipated and it still remains a classic. THATS WHY you go fwd with the big release. Its already been beta tested. All they have to do is improve. Most of today's audience missed the hbo movie so its like giving a test after you gave the quiz. For people who saw the hbo movie it may be a little different. He will have to prove what the difference is or prove the wheel isnt being reinvented for money. But hell they remade the hulk 5yrs after the first. Its a remake i dont care what they call it
03:01 PM on 01/18/2012
Did people actually yell "Boom!" in 1945?
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NatTurner1
Clinton 2016
03:06 PM on 01/18/2012
Only if people yelled "hold, hold, hold" in 13th century Scotland.

(See Braveheart)
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Frank Lee Mydear
05:03 AM on 01/19/2012
As long as they don't say "sorry for your loss" or as they did in 1960 on "Alcatraz" the other night,"24/7".
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cherokeechild
Every rose has its thorns
02:58 PM on 01/18/2012
Wow! I can't believe no one is posting. I knew about these heroic fighters and am so happy to see them finally get thier story told. Sadly I also saw a movie with Bruce Willis in a prisnor's story in the same time period, and the black actor- Terence HOWARD (?) was the only black soldier in with them.
There is a scene where a plane in the distance that gets shot down & he cheers until he is told that it was a red tail. I didn't get from the scene that that the white soldiers appreciated what those flyers were doing. I am sooo glad that we have come a ways and our understanding of what blacks are capable as anyone and doors aren't so cruely shut in their faces. Maybe one day I'll see something on the contributions Hispanics and asians,etc, also made to keep our country free.
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Frank Lee Mydear
05:16 AM on 01/19/2012
I think you're talking about "Hart's War". It's possible the camp was one for officers and of course there were very few officers who were black and most likely he was probably a pilot or airman anyway (which of course would make him an officer).

I read a book in elementary school called "Black Soldier" back in the early 70's. It was about the experiences of a young man in WW2 as he progressed through boot camp to the end of the war. I never understood racism and it enlightened me what the 60's civil rights movement was all about. It was also the most popular book in an all white school.