Anne Thompson kicked off the discussion by commenting that while the studios spent too much on too many wrong projects, preferring to throw their money after splashy visual effects and 3D, some of the best films of the year were made on small budgets: 'The Social Network,' 'The Town,' 'True Grit' and 'The Fighter.' She asks: Is there change in the air?
Eric Kohn responded by wondering if those successful films marked a return of the auteur -- talented directors whose stylistic or thematic tendencies are consistent throughout their films. But he also lamented that the studios' marketing dollars generally don't get spent on those types of films.
Leonard Maltin worried that audiences just aren't aware of directors beyond the handful that have created blockbusters -- the James Camerons, the Steven Spielbergs or the Peter Jacksons. Audiences, he says, still succumb to the machinations of Hollywood's giant marketing machine, and don't take chances on independent productions.
And all three wondered how the brave new world of social media and viral marketing will affect Tinseltown -- will the change be for the better?
A transcript of their entertaining conversation is after the jump.
Anne Thompson: As we move into 2011, things in the movie business are not looking good. Even though 3D propped up 2010 ticket sales, attendance was down 5 percent. While many disturbing trends from 2010 will carry over to 2011, there's change in the air. Hollywood is hanging on to some bad habits, but the entertainment industry is in transition.
The movie studios are set in their ways, though, often spending way too much money on the wrong projects. Bigger is often considered better, especially at the free-spending majors, who'd rather plunk money into boffo visual effects and 3D than work on a smarter script. While 20th Century Fox's list of clunkers included 'The A Team,' 'Marmaduke' and 'Gulliver's Travels' and Sony laid out $100 million plus on starry year-end flops 'The Tourist' and 'How Do You Know,' other studios did think outside the box.
Some of the best studio movies of the year were put together creatively, without overspending. Sony made 'The Social Network' for only $40 million, without major stars. On his second film, Ben Affleck did not want a big budget crimping his style and made 'The Town' for $37 million at Warners. The Coen brothers always keep their budgets low: 'True Grit' was made for $38 million at Paramount. That studio initially passed on 'The Fighter,' after years of development. Relativity made the movie at a $25 million budget instead of $70 million; Paramount had dibs on releasing the film, though, and now has bragging rights to a hit awards contender.
Eric Kohn: It's not surprising that the studios spent too much last year on too many clunkers. It seems like that sort of flaw is built into their genealogy. The cheaper films you cited are all made by directors with established track records, which seems to suggest that 2010 marked the return of mainstream auteurs -- visionary filmmakers whose stylistic or thematic tendencies are consistent throughout their films. For that reason, 2010 was a tale of two Hollywoods: One driven by brands and the other by talent. We all prefer the talent, so it's unfortunate that marketing dollars generally don't get spent on playing them up. If 'Scott Pilgrim vs the World' had been marketed as a zany Edgar Wright picture, it might have avoided the Michael Cera backlash. There are more directors whose names should be able to sell movies to audiences beyond James Cameron, Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson.
I agree with your sentiments, Eric, but the sad truth is that most people haven't a clue who directors are beyond that tiny handful you named, plus George Lucas. The majority of the moviegoing public succumbs to the machinations of Hollywood's giant marketing machine, but even they couldn't persuade more people to go out and see 'The Town' and 'The Social Network,' which were only modestly successful in blockbuster terms. Smart films still put people off. I'm fascinated to see how Sony has retooled its ad campaign for the DVD release of 'The Social Network' to make it look sexier!
Most indie distributors just don't have the money, the muscle, or the star power to compete, even when they have movies that are every bit as appealing as the mainstream Hollywood product. I was discouraged to see how quickly 'Nowhere Boy' came and went last fall; wouldn't you think a beautifully-made film about John Lennon would have wider appeal than the average "art" movie? In the same vein, I thought Kristen Stewart's presence in 'The Runaways' would give that movie a big boost, but it didn't happen.
I've come to the reluctant conclusion that America's most loyal movie attendees will watch almost anything that opens "big" on a Friday and has advertising to back it up rather than take a chance on anything indie. And until someone finds a way to close that gap, even a little, we'll continue to have two separate streams of filmmaking.
Leonard, as you know, Hollywood tends to follow success. And my hope is that they will figure out that as their once-surefire opening weekend demo -- young males -- turns out to be the most fickle, peeling off to play videogames and surf the Internet, that they will return to their solid core movie audience: adults, who listen to strong-word-of-mouth. Look at the movies that are doing roaring business now: 'The Social Network,' 'The King's Speech,' 'The Fighter,' 'True Grit' and 'Black Swan' -- all are pulling adults. These movies also did not open big, but built a following and broadened as they played. (Oscar buzz didn't hurt either.) The online buzz that attends all movies these days spreads swiftly on social networks and tips moviegoers to what is good or bad, so fast that it's tougher for studios to just buy an opening weekend gross anymore. The audience is too well-informed for that. And that requires that distribs deliver something they are loath to have to do: well-executed, appealing movies that play well.
But while the studios begrudgingly try to make churn out good product, it's important that they don't neglect the ways the behavior of that young male demo is spreading to other demographics. Anne, you mention how that "fickle" bunch turn to videogames and the Web in lieu of attending the latest releases, but digitally-oriented audiences are getting older. It's not just the young and restless who are finding other things to do than leave their homes to see movies. A lot of people now expect the movies to come to them. Some already are, via cable-on-demand releases that hit homes before their theatrical releases. But the big movies are still by and large only immediately available in theaters. As much as I love the big screen, that's going to have to evolve, and I'm betting that we're going to see some progress in the coming months. Personally, this strikes me as a good thing. While I see where Leonard's coming from about people not knowing many directors' names beyond a handful of big-timers, that may change once anyone can call up a filmmaker's latest work with the click of a button. And studios should embrace this -- it's a lot cheaper than a theatrical release.
Leonard Maltin: I respect your optimism, Eric, but I'm still dubious. There is, and will always be, a film culture in our society, and smart, curious young people will embrace new talent as well as proven successes. But they remain a niche alongside the mass public that either buys into -- or rejects -- what opens at the multiplex every Friday. As you say, there is a whole new world of distribution for cinema, in shortform and longform, on mobile devices and such, and this will likely generate a new stratum of "stars" and "star filmmakers," just as a viral YouTube video can create a worldwide hit in a matter of hours or days. But I'm still not sure that the people who enjoy watching a clever short film care enough about who made it to see what else they're up to. That, to me, is the missing link: to embrace and encourage real talent and allow it to blossom. The skateboarding cat or shopping penguin onscreen is of much greater interest than the person wielding the camera or editing the piece.
I'm not saying that the next Joel and Ethan Coen or David Fincher might not arise from this arena and achieve success and even fame. In fact, I'll be keenly interested to watch how that unfolds.
Leonard Maltin, whose blog for indieWIRE is titled
Eric Kohn, whose writing has appeared in The New York Times, is the lead film critic at indieWIRE. He regularly discusses and reviews movies on his personal blog,
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